Por David Adkin | Cofundador de Adalo
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¿Qué significa esto para nuestra vida personal, nuestros hijos y la disparidad económica?

Una analogía que me viene a la mente es Zoom. Right Zoom, muy enfocado a la empresa en como, reuniones a gran escala, etc. Ahora mis hijos están arriba usándolo como preescolar, ¿verdad? Y lo estamos usando para pasar el rato con amigos. Hay un retraso en el momento en que se realiza ese tipo de valor comercial y se traslada a un contexto más social. Lo mismo va a suceder con el no-code.

Creo que para los niños se va a convertir en una habilidad básica, casi como la alfabetización. En este momento, mi hija dirige este sitio de Animal Facts donde recopila datos divertidos de sus amigos, y todos están como, ya sabes, llenos de juegos de palabras y esas cosas. Y agrega nuevos datos en los que se ríe cuando lo ingresa en el CMS, y luego envía un mensaje de texto a sus amigos diciendo: '¡Mira el último!' Sin valor económico, ¿verdad? Pero ya entiendo los principios de que internet es mi patio de recreo.

En cuanto a la disparidad económica, se necesita mucho tiempo para obtener un título en ciencias de la computación. Se necesita mucho dinero para ir a estos campamentos de entrenamiento. Tienes que tener muchos recursos, suerte, privilegios y tipos específicos de experiencias pasadas para participar en algo así y tener la oportunidad de aprender algo tan complejo como el código. Y eso mantiene a mucha gente fuera. Y creo que el no-code nivela eso.

I think the more people that can build stuff is good for society. If the internet was sort of like a first wave of enablement, it's like, hey, some random person who learns how to code in the middle of Missouri, can now spin up a website and start making some money. No code, I think, just adds another order of magnitude, because now it's not about learning code. It's you just have to learn some simpler tools. And so it just adds a whole swath of people [who] now are able to do a whole set of new things.

I can tell you this, it feels like it will be a foundational shift in how work happens, and I feel pretty confident in that.

I think it'll mean a lot for underserved populations. For example last year at Apps Without Code, we had our curriculum at Illinois Tech, at Stanford, and at Wharton. And on their campuses, we had high schoolers come in for the summer, and they were able to not only have college experiences but they were also able to learn how to build apps without code, and even augmented reality apps, using our curriculum.

And that program was primarily for Black and Latino young people from high schools. And  it gave them a whole other world of opportunity and leg up.

I'm obviously optimistic about this topic. I think that automation in general is not going to replace people. It’s just going to make people not have to spend time going through emails, putting things into spreadsheets, and doing repetitive things in their personal lives.

With kids, I've seen it firsthand. We had a workshop recently. And there was a middle school teacher and we were just watching her teach the kids how to build a mobile app. Just knowing that these kids are learning these tools early on is amazing.

I think it’s positive for everything, economic disparity included. You can automatically build things to help charities and automations to help manage these things, those things and all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, I'm obviously very excited about how it will positively affect everyone.

I believe that no-code tools will give us back more time. So if anything, it's going to enrich our personal lives because we're going to spend less time building one off things that are highly custom to validating ideas with some type of underlying framework. And ultimately, to have time back I believe that's the most impactful thing that anyone can, can get.

The sky's the limit. As these tools become more robust, kids will be the future entrepreneurs and they're gonna have access to tools and I don't think they're going to be technically kids anymore. I believe what we're gonna see is the 18 year olds in the next 10 years operate at the business level very much like a 30 to 40 year old now. I believe what these tools are going to do for kids is enable them to kind of live a different life, not go down the traditional path. Kids are just going to be able to create their own path and lane and be able to make cool stuff at a very early age.

I believe these tools are going to enable financial inclusion. I mean, you're going to have a complete leveling of the playing field, people in third world countries are going to now have first world tools and what that does is it changes lives.

I think that this is a great example of something that can provide a way for smart, creative people to work, where they didn't previously have a way to actually make a reasonable income. Previously, you could be an entrepreneur and if you wanted to be in technology, you could either make a billion dollars, or you could make zero dollars, and most people made zero — so you kind of had to choose. Now, you can make $10,000 a month and really support yourself and your family but not have to be raising venture capital or on that kind of level of constant uncertainty around the next phase of your business.

I think that we've already definitely seen that kids are some of the people that pick up Adalo the fastest and I'm sure it's true with the other platforms, as well. When you grow up around technology things that are little builders in themselves, you just have a deeper understanding and each next generation will be better at it. I think that now people in high school have the opportunity to make money and try things and do things of their own that are totally entrepreneurial and unique.

I think that no-code enables more people to build more products that serve smaller individual customer bases. So rather than having Facebook and Google that each have billions of users, I think you're gonna see a lot more companies that have a few thousand users, and are a two person team that built that product. And I think that does really help the economic disparity part of it. And it also just helps a lot more people actually take themselves out of poverty or kind of provide a career for themselves and generate new ways of working.

I'm so excited by this — the ability to build personal apps and tools is something that's never been possible unless you were a software engineer. So that means we'll see people building things like small group apps, or a family app that just helps your family stay organized and have fun together, etc. Things like that.  I think those capabilities are really compelling and interesting, because it lets people create the tools they need to solve their problems instead of wait around for somebody else to create it for them.

Re: Kids —  I think you'll see people creating toys and games, new social networks, and new all kinds of interesting things that, frankly, are hard to predict right now.

Re: Economic Disparity — I think the ability to create software is something that is super important for everyone. And because software is going to touch everything, it shouldn't just be available for an elite group of people to be the ones building — it should be possible for everyone to have access. The tools we create for humanity needs to be accessible to everyone. I think more people will become software developers, but I don't think you should have to become a software developer to build an idea.

I am a really strong believer that no-code really, really helps make this type of building, this type of work, really accessible for people. And one of the beautiful things that I love about having such a strong community and being so connected with our no-code and our Voiceflow builders is being able to see people like this — who can hop on the platform, the same platform that large teams and enterprises are using and be able to build something really meaningful.

I think that, more and more, as no-code becomes on the front lines of things and more accessible to younger kids and even older generations, you're going to see more innovation happening in that space, and even easier ways for people to be able to get jobs or jump to different career options. Not only because it's more accessible, but now because they can do a lot more learning at home. So I think it's gonna make a huge difference moving forward.

I use Notion for a number of things in my personal life to keep tabs on things I want to watch, or eat, or purchase or this or that and you know, it's not like I'm automating my entire life. I think that's sort of a misnomer sometimes with no-code is things that are built have to be some crazy complex thing. Like it could just be the way that I use Notion, it's just mapping some tables together and doing some things that make my life, my personal life, easier. So I see a lot of that becoming more of a thing.

Kind of a joke, but kind of serious, like the idea of maybe I should start getting my daughter to learn coding, you know, as quick as possible. But I would argue that today getting the younger generation or those folks that don't understand code to go the no-code route as well, just because it's just as important from the standpoint of problem solving and ultimately kind of putting puzzle pieces together that they wouldn't normally probably have an opportunity to do so with other projects.

Now, the disparity between, like, here in Iowa and the Bay Area is quite obvious but the more that these tools start to be the norm, the more that things that are designed and built from Iowa being roughly the same as things that are designed and built from California — they could more or less be the same and you wouldn't know otherwise just again, by proxy of being able to have access to these tools and all these new doors being open.

[Encaje] Ojalá hubiera aprendido a programar cuando era muy joven, porque es una gran habilidad. Así que creo que para los niños, aprender a usar este método de construcción sin código y usar ese tipo de cosas, para permitirles comenzar a pensar creativamente. 

En mi propia vida personal, me encanta que, si tengo una idea, puedo empezar, puedo hacer girar algo rápidamente y empezar a jugar con ello y empezar a validarme incluso a mí mismo, ¿funcionaría esto? ¿Sería esta una buena solución?

La disparidad económica es probablemente la más grande para mí y el mayor impulsor para mí personalmente, la razón por la que estoy en este espacio, la razón por la que es tan importante para mí, es porque permite a las personas hacer algo que de otra manera no tendrían la oportunidad de hacer. Obtener un título en ciencias de la computación es caro, ir a campamentos de entrenamiento de codificación es caro, aprender a programar, incluso si pasas, puede ser un proceso largo, y eso supone que tienes acceso a muchas plataformas. [Cualquiera] puede convertirse en solucionador de problemas, y luego puede comenzar a marcar la diferencia. Y eso para mí es lo más importante: que las personas tengan el poder y la capacidad de generar un cambio positivo dentro de tu comunidad y dentro de ti mismo.

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David Adkin
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